Comments on: Shaw Brothers Expo In Hong Kong http://minutillo.com/steve/weblog/2003/01/29/shaw-brothers-expo-in-hong-kong/ messy things Thu, 10 Nov 2011 05:07:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Dogzilla http://minutillo.com/steve/weblog/2003/01/29/shaw-brothers-expo-in-hong-kong/comment-page-1/#comment-115 Dogzilla Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:32:27 +0000 /?p=89#comment-115 Just want to make sure everything goes in its proper categiry. Just want to make sure everything goes in its proper categiry.

]]> By: steve http://minutillo.com/steve/weblog/2003/01/29/shaw-brothers-expo-in-hong-kong/comment-page-1/#comment-113 steve Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:08:33 +0000 /?p=89#comment-113 Yeah I understand all that, but they were finally written down in 500 AD. I say, at that point, they became novels. Yeah I understand all that, but they were finally written down in 500 AD. I say, at that point, they became novels.

]]> By: Me http://minutillo.com/steve/weblog/2003/01/29/shaw-brothers-expo-in-hong-kong/comment-page-1/#comment-112 Me Thu, 30 Jan 2003 08:21:20 +0000 /?p=89#comment-112 Mr. Dogzilla has hit the nail on the...well you know what I mean. Mr. Dogzilla has hit the nail on the…well you know what I mean.

]]> By: Dogzilla http://minutillo.com/steve/weblog/2003/01/29/shaw-brothers-expo-in-hong-kong/comment-page-1/#comment-111 Dogzilla Thu, 30 Jan 2003 03:10:01 +0000 /?p=89#comment-111 Aren\'t both the Odyssey and the Iliad considered to be epic poems? A bit of semantic hair-splitting there if true, as epic poems were clearly considered to be the novels of their times, but I suppose it is valid to consider them as a separate categiry. Another thing to consider is that both the Iliad and the Odyssey are from an oral tradition, which means every retelling of the story would have been somewhat different. Aren\’t both the Odyssey and the Iliad considered to be epic poems? A bit of semantic hair-splitting there if true, as epic poems were clearly considered to be the novels of their times, but I suppose it is valid to consider them as a separate categiry. Another thing to consider is that both the Iliad and the Odyssey are from an oral tradition, which means every retelling of the story would have been somewhat different.

]]> By: steve http://minutillo.com/steve/weblog/2003/01/29/shaw-brothers-expo-in-hong-kong/comment-page-1/#comment-110 steve Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:05:26 +0000 /?p=89#comment-110 Yeah that\'s right. So we looked up what\'s older than Red Chamber Dream (18th century), and found that Romance of Three Kingdoms was older (14th century). But then we found what seems to be considered the oldest novel, the Tale of Genji (written right around the first turn of the milennium).<br /> <br /> What I don\'t get: How are the Iliad and the Odyssey not considered the first novels? They were composed around 800 BC and first written down around 500 AD. I\'ve started reading the Odyssey, and it sure seems novel-ish to me. Yeah that\’s right. So we looked up what\’s older than Red Chamber Dream (18th century), and found that Romance of Three Kingdoms was older (14th century). But then we found what seems to be considered the oldest novel, the Tale of Genji (written right around the first turn of the milennium).

What I don\’t get: How are the Iliad and the Odyssey not considered the first novels? They were composed around 800 BC and first written down around 500 AD. I\’ve started reading the Odyssey, and it sure seems novel-ish to me.

]]> By: Jenny http://minutillo.com/steve/weblog/2003/01/29/shaw-brothers-expo-in-hong-kong/comment-page-1/#comment-108 Jenny Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:46:43 +0000 /?p=89#comment-108 The book was a difficult read even with translation at the end of every chapter. I was wondering if Dream of the red chamber was the oldest written novel in the world as it was look upon as one of the greatest achievements in Chinese literature. Well, it\'s not. The book was a difficult read even with translation at the end of every chapter. I was wondering if Dream of the red chamber was the oldest written novel in the world as it was look upon as one of the greatest achievements in Chinese literature. Well, it\’s not.

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